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I'm afraid that just "art cinema" could be confusing for let's say experts since it refers to a wider notion of art cinema in general (art film, art filmmakers - what concerns the last term: it is best to write it as one word or two?). That's why I broach this subject. Actualy I was rereading the Kino Metropol article and I found this sentence "After the opening of the first Celje multiplex cinema (here I changed the term cinema center with multiplex cinema - I hope it's OK) called Planet Tuš, the Metropol was converted into an art cinema theatre (as I recall here I changed "art cinema" with "art cinema theatre"). to shorten - it is not wrong but maybe it could be confusing.

I forgot to add - I would prefer arthouse cinema. lp, d Denis Valič 15:39, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

yeah, I can see how it quickly gets confusing, with cinema being both a venue and an art form. In the Oxford History of World Cinema, they use art cinema (see the index – you have to be logged into an Amazon account to read their books online) http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-History-World-Cinema/dp/0198742428#reader_0198742428. I do think it is possible to use "cinema" as the ventue, without adding hall. Have a look at how I've changed Art kino Metropol Celje. I think that with a few more articles behind us, we'll be able to settle into terminology that rings right. We can talk more about it tomorrow ... Jana Wilcoxen 23:38, 25 January 2010 (CET)

great, thanks and see you tomorrow! Denis Valič 00:51, 26 January 2010 (CET)

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terminologija

checking a few dictionaries, here's what I've found:

Longman's

arts cinema [countable]

British English a cinema that shows mainly foreign films or films made by small film companies http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/arts-cinema

art house [countable]

a cinema that shows mainly foreign films, or films made by small film companies: art house films http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/art-house

mul‧ti‧plex also multiplex cinema British English [countable]

a cinema that has several different rooms in which it can show films http://www.ldoceonline.com/Film-topic/multiplex_1

types of film: comedy, romantic comedy, drama, thriller, western, action film, horror film, war film, art house film, silent film, feature film
films that use drawings or models: cartoon, animation, animated film
films in general: cinema
where you go to see a film: cinema (British English)/movie theater (American English), multiplex
the people in a film: actor, actress, star, cast
the people who make a film: director, producer, film crew, cameraman/camerawoman, scriptwriter
the music for a film: soundtrack
the words and the instructions to the actors: screenplay
a short film advertising another film: trailer

OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY ONLINE

cinema

noun chiefly Brit. 1 a theatre where films are shown. 2 the production of films as an art or industry.

 — ORIGIN Greek kinema ‘movement’, from kinein ‘to move’.

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/cinema?view=uk

art house

noun a cinema which shows artistic or experimental films. http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/arthouse?view=uk

Jana Wilcoxen 12:20, 26 January 2010 (CET)

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-==art kino==
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-Pmam predlog, da bi spremenili in poenotili angleški zapis termina art kino - možnosti so: Britanci imajo raje repertory cinema (včasih tudi revival house, a ta termin označuje prej dvorane, kakršnih pri nas ne poznamo - tiste, ki vrtijo stare art filme), medtem ko Američani govorijo o arthouse cinemas. by Denis
+I'm afraid that just "art cinema" could be confusing for let's say experts since it refers to a wider notion of art cinema in general (art film, art filmmakers - what concerns the last term: it is best to write it as one word or two?). That's why I broach this subject. Actualy I was rereading the Kino Metropol article and I found this sentence
+"After the opening of the first Celje multiplex cinema (here I changed the term cinema center with multiplex cinema - I hope it's OK) called Planet Tuš, the Metropol was converted into an art cinema theatre (as I recall here I changed "art cinema" with "art cinema theatre"). to shorten - it is not wrong but maybe it could be confusing.
-::Hi Denis, sitting here with Alenka and Helena...we are researching your question. Do you have specific instances where this occurs and where you need to discuss the term? It's helpful to look at examples. Tenx.
+I forgot to add - I would prefer arthouse cinema.
-::I would say that repertory cinema and revival house are not the terms that accurately describe what we want to say with art kino. My first association with those terms is with old films, never with new (contemporary) films, though I think that the term arthouse cinema can encompass both.
+lp, d [[User:Denis Valič|Denis Valič]] 15:39, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
-::Interesting discussion here: [http://www.filmreference.com/encyclopedia/Academy-Awards-Crime-Films/Art-Cinema.html http://www.filmreference.com/encyclopedia/Academy-Awards-Crime-Films/Art-Cinema.html] and [http://www.filmreference.com/encyclopedia/Academy-Awards-Crime-Films/Art-Cinema-ART-CINEMA-IN-THE-TWENTY-FIRST-CENTURY.html http://www.filmreference.com/encyclopedia/Academy-Awards-Crime-Films/Art-Cinema-ART-CINEMA-IN-THE-TWENTY-FIRST-CENTURY.html]
-:: On this page they also use arthouse cinema [http://www.europa-cinemas.org/en/news/09_Ljubljana_MiniNetwork.php http://www.europa-cinemas.org/en/news/09_Ljubljana_MiniNetwork.php]
-:: So, I'd say either arthouse cinema or art cinema. What do you think? [[User:Jwilcoxen|Jana Wilcoxen]] 14:50, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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+yeah, I can see how it quickly gets confusing, with cinema being both a venue and an art form. In the ''Oxford History of World Cinema'', they use art cinema (see the index &ndash; you have to be logged into an Amazon account to read their books online) [http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-History-World-Cinema/dp/0198742428#reader_0198742428 http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-History-World-Cinema/dp/0198742428#reader_0198742428]. I do think it is possible to use "cinema" as the ventue, without adding hall. Have a look at how I've changed [[Art kino Metropol Celje]]. I think that with a few more articles behind us, we'll be able to settle into terminology that rings right. We can talk more about it tomorrow ... [[User:Jwilcoxen|Jana Wilcoxen]] 23:38, 25 January 2010 (CET)
+------------
+great, thanks and see you tomorrow!
+[[User:Denis Valič|Denis Valič]] 00:51, 26 January 2010 (CET)
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+== Comments from Editor ==
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-Videl ==prioritetni seznam člankov== in potrjujem udeležbo na sestanku.
+===Infobox===
+Cf. Discussion at [[Animateka International Animated Film Festival]]
+===Article structure===
+MANDATORY SECTIONS - vsak članek ima obvezna razdelka See also (notranje linke - tudi če so v tekstu) in External links (zunanje linke), to narediš predno gre v predal ToProofread -  glede delitve teksta na nekaj poglavij, npr  "teaser", Background, Programme, International Cooperation (v tem primeru vključenost v Europa Cinemas -ki tudi kot External links), glej primere člankov, ki so Fertik! Ni pa rečeno, da mora bit vsak članek tako zgrajen. Mora se dobro brat!  Super, led je prebit!
+- za podrobnosti See
+[http://culture.ljudmila.net/wiki/Culture.si_Article_Guidelines_%28AG%29 | Article Guidelines]
+== terminologija ==
+checking a few dictionaries, here's what I've found:
+===Longman's===
-== Comments from Editor ==
+*'''arts cinema''' [countable]
+British English a cinema that shows mainly foreign films or films made by small film companies
+[http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/arts-cinema http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/arts-cinema]
+*'''art house''' [countable]
+a cinema that shows mainly foreign films, or films made by small film companies:
+art house films
+[http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/art-house http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/art-house]
+*'''mul‧ti‧plex''' also multiplex cinema British English [countable]
+a cinema that has several different rooms in which it can show films
+[http://www.ldoceonline.com/Film-topic/multiplex_1 http://www.ldoceonline.com/Film-topic/multiplex_1]
+*'''types of film''': comedy, romantic comedy, drama, thriller, western, action film, horror film, war film, art house film, silent film, feature film
+*'''films that use drawings or models''': cartoon, animation, animated film
+*'''films in general''': cinema
+*'''where you go to see a film''': cinema (British English)/movie theater (American English), multiplex
+*'''the people in a film''': actor, actress, star, cast
+*'''the people who make a film''': director, producer, film crew, cameraman/camerawoman, scriptwriter
+*'''the music for a film''': soundtrack
+*'''the words and the instructions to the actors''': screenplay
+*'''a short film advertising another film''': trailer
-re Infobox - cf. Discussion at [[Animateka International Animated Film Festival]]
+===OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY ONLINE===
+*'''cinema'''
+noun chiefly Brit. 1 a theatre where films are shown. 2 the production of films as an art or industry.
+  — ORIGIN Greek kinema ‘movement’, from kinein ‘to move’.
+[http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/cinema?view=uk http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/cinema?view=uk]
+*'''art house'''
+noun a cinema which shows artistic or experimental films.
+[http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/arthouse?view=uk http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/arthouse?view=uk]
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+[[User:Jwilcoxen|Jana Wilcoxen]] 12:20, 26 January 2010 (CET)
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